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		<title>By: ECSTR aka XTR &#124; neverendingbooks</title>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...]        Table of contents for rationality &amp; cryptographytori &amp; crypto : Diffie-Hellman or GCHQ?key-compressionECSTR aka [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Michel Van den Bergh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michel Van den Bergh</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Perhaps you should point out that DH key exchange makes sense in ANY group for which the discrete logarithm problem is hard. One popular choice is the group of rational points on an elliptic curve (ECC). Another possible choice is apparently the group of rational points on a torus.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Of course there are no groups for which the DL problem has been PROVED to be hard. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Rationality is not really necessary for point compression (elliptic curves for example are not rational).  It the above example you could send b and one bit indicatig whether we use the biggest or the smallest number among a or p-a where a is a square root of 1 db^2 in F. A similar trivial idea in the case of ECC has been patented by certicom.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Michel&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you should point out that DH key exchange makes sense in ANY group for which the discrete logarithm problem is hard. One popular choice is the group of rational points on an elliptic curve (ECC). Another possible choice is apparently the group of rational points on a torus.</p>
<p>Of course there are no groups for which the DL problem has been PROVED to be hard. </p>
<p>Rationality is not really necessary for point compression (elliptic curves for example are not rational).  It the above example you could send b and one bit indicatig whether we use the biggest or the smallest number among a or p-a where a is a square root of 1 db^2 in F. A similar trivial idea in the case of ECC has been patented by certicom.</p>
<p>Michel</p>
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